Adam, Eve, and Lilith

Adam's name literally means a man made of blood, which comes from PRE-BIBLICAL myths telling tales of a man formed from the clay of the Goddess of Earth and given life by HER own blood. According to Gnostic scriptures, Adam was not created by the power of God's word, but by Eve's. He didn't produce her from his rib, SHE created HIM from HERS. The biblical idea was a reversal of older myths that told of the Goddess bringing a primal male ancestor into being, then making him her mate. This type of ubiquitous, archetypical divine-incest relationship is traceable in every mythology. The origin of the reversal isn't even biblical. The Aryan patriarchs evolved this concept with their primal male ancestor. They claimed their god brought forth the Mother of All Living from his body, then mated with her, causing her to give birth to the rest of the universe. To me, this makes no sense, seeing as humans are supposedly created “in God's image.”
IF THAT'S SO TRUE, WHERE DID ANY GOD COME UP WITH THE IMAGE FOR A WOMAN??? WE DIDN'T JUST COME FROM NOWHERE! AND, TRUTH BE TOLD, MEN ARE BETTER COMPANY FOR MEN, AS WOMEN ARE FOR WOMEN, THAN THE OPPOSITE SEX EVER IS... THE ONLY REASON MEN NEED WOMEN IS FOR SEX (AND VICE VERSA, OF COURSE)... WHAT KIND OF GOD CREATES JUST ONE MAN AND JUST ONE WOMAN? I DISBELIEVE THE IDEA THAT ONLY ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN WERE CREATED I MEAN, INCEST WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY FOR HUMANS TO REPRODUCE, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, AND INCEST CAUSES DEFORMITIES ETC. MOST PEOPLE ARE THE SAME, WITHOUT DEFORMITIES ETC, SO WE OBVIOUSLY WERE NOT BORN BY INCEST FROM THE START. AS I SEE IT ANYWAY.

The creation tale most biblical religions know of, Adam and Eve, involves Adam's rib, in some form. This idea came from the idea that Adam's rib was taken from a Sumerian Goddess who formed infant's bones from their mothers' ribs.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER THEORY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLICAL CREATION MYTH INVOLVING ADAM AND EVE. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE STORIES THAT SPAWNED THE BIBLICAL CREATION MYTH OF ADAM AND EVE, CHANGED SLIGHTLY.

As far as Eve goes, the bible neglected to mention a certain significant woman created before her. Lilith. Yes, that's right. Eve was not the first woman, even according to the biblical religions. THOSE WHO KNEW OF LILITH NEGLECTED TO MENTION HER TO ANYONE ESE IN AN ATTEMPT TO DESTROY THE MEMORY OF HER, FOR SHE WASN'T SO MUCH LIKE EVE, AND, AS I HAVE DETERMINED FOR MYSELF, THERE IS A LOT OF SEXISM IN THESE RELIGIONS.
Lilith was Adam's first wife and was supposedly so, according to the Hebraic tradition, due to growing tired of coupling with beasts.
THAT'S RIGHT PEOPLE, BEASTIALITY! ISN'T THAT A SIN??? GASP!
In any case, Adam had similar beliefs as Catholics and Moslems, who both insisted that and sexual position other than the male-superior sexual position was sinful, saying, “Accursed be the man who maketh woman heaven and himself earth.” Lilith, however, was neither Catholic nor a Moslem, and sneered at the crudity of it, cursed Adam, then flew away.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, LILITH HAD A VERY STRONG MIND (AND WILL) OF HER OWN ABOUT THINGS.
When God sent his angels to fetch Lilith and return her to Adam, she cursed them, as well, ignored his command, and spent her time coupling with “demons,” giving birth to hundreds of children per day. Eve was simply Lilith's replacement, and a much more docile one, at that, which was the idea.
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY THE CHURCH MANIPULATES WOMEN INTO BEING DIM, THOUGHTLESS SEX MACHINES FOR MEN THAT ALLOW MEN TO TAKE OVER AND DOMINATE THEIR ENTIRE WORLD! MORE SEXISM!!! (I am REALLY going to have to do something JUST on the sexism that saturates biblical religions)
Lilith's daughters were adopted in Christian mythology as harlots of hell, aka succubi. All of her the Daughters of Lilith were supposedly very beautiful, despite also being called Night-Hags, and so expert at lovemaking that no man could possibly be satisfied with any mortal woman after an encounter with one of the Night-Hags.
(I STAND BY THE NAME I HAVE CHOSEN... DAUGHTER OF LILITH. SHE IS MY SOUL'S MOTHER, AND HECATE IS MY PROTECTRESS, MY PATRONESS. HADES AWAITS MY RETURN TO THE UNDERWORLD, WHERE I WILL BE GIVEN WINGS TO FINALLY BE TRULY FREE OF THE CONFINES OF MY CAGE, ALSO KNOWN AS A BODY. (FYI, I don't KNOW that this is true, I simply think it sounds VERY nice. I am quite convinced of Lilith being my soul's mother and Hecate being my patroness, however!)
There is a rumor of Lilith being connected to the Etruscan divinity known as Leinth, who had no face and waited at the gate of the underworld along with Hades and Persephone (aka Hecate) to receive the souls of the dead. The gate was a yoni, also a lily, and admission was often rumored to be a sexual union. He relation between this Lily and Lilith lies in lily (also lilu or lotus) being Great Mother's flower-yoni, whose title formed Lilith's name.
SO I HONESTLY DON'T CARE IF I GO TO YOUR HEAVEN OR NOT. I WOULD PREFER NOT TO, TO BE HONEST. I WOULD MUCH RATHER RETURN TO MY MOTHER AND PATRONESS AT THE LOTUS GATE, WHICH WILL EMBRACE MY SOUL SO LONG AS MY SOUL IS ALIVE, SO TO SPEAK. Lilith, I love you. Hecate, I praise you. Hades, you are in my thoughts (and will be even moreso now that I know this). I KNOW WHERE I BELONG IS NOT ON EARTH. I HAVE LIVED MANY TIMES BEFORE AND KNOW THE FREEDOM OF THE AFTER-LIFE, EVEN IN THIS BODY. THE MEMORY OF THAT ULTIMATE FREEDOM IS BURNED INTO MY SOUL!

There is even question that the first human created, Adam, was even a man. As Barbara G. Walker said in one of her books, The first of the Bible's two creation myths (YES, YOU READ RIGHT, TWO CREATION MYTHS OF THE BIBLE) gives this Assyrian version, changing “she” to “he” (Genesis 1:27).

The original Eve had no spouse, but the serpent, an living phallus she created for her own pleasure. In fact, some ancient people even consider the Goddess and her serpent as their first parents (A TAD far fetched for me). The image of the evil serpent in the apple tree came from sacred icons showing the Goddess giving birth to man with her serpent coiled around an apple tree behind her. It was the deliberate misinterpretation of that symbol that gave life to the ideas that produced the revised creation myths, such as the one in Genesis. There were, however, some Jewish traditions that identified Jehovah with the serpent deity who accompanied the Mother in her garden.
According to Gnostic scriptures, Eve was obliged to punish Jehovah because he pretended to be the sole creator.

Another Gnostic story tells of God cursing Adam and Eve, expelling them from paradise out of jealousy of their happiness. He, lusting after Eve, raped her and begot her sons Jahveh and Elohim, aka Cain and Abel.
UH... EEEEWWWWW!!!

Patriarchs blamed the Mother for the fact that every living things dies because she gave it a finite life. Also, instead of blaming God for casting Adam out of paradise, they blamed Eve for this curse. Barbara G. Walker says: “The Wisdom of Jesus ben Sirach said evil began with Woman (aka Eve): 'because of her we all die.' Fathers of the Christian church said Eve conceived by the serpent and brought forth Death. The seeds of all women already existed in Eve, St. John Chrysostom maintained, so that in her sin 'the whole female race is transgressed.'”
OK, FIRST OFF, SINCE WHEN IS THERE A FEMALE RACE? THERE IS NO MALE RACE! WHAT THE HELL??? THIS IS just MORE OF THAT STUPID ASS SEXIST ATTITUDE AGAINST WOMEN! WHAT BS! WOMEN ARE THE BEARERS OF LIFE! NOT A FUCKING CURSE! WITHOUT WOMEN THERE WOULD BE NO MEN!!! SO EAT THAT FOR DINNER TONIGHT!

According to the Book of Enoch, God created death to punish humanity for Eve's sin, (UH... WHAT SIN WAS THAT, EXACTLY??? HAVING A BRAIN? QUESTIONING GOD AND THINKING FOR HERSELF? HOLY FUCK, IT'S NO WONDER WOMEN WERE, AND STILL ARE, SO BRAIN DEAD! IT'S CONSIDERED A SIN TO ACTUALLY THINK FOR OURSELVES, AS WOMEN!!! WHAT THE FUCK? MORE OF THAT SEXIST ATTITUDE AGAINST WOMEN!) but many patriarchal thinkers and religions didn't want to blame God, even in the most indirect fashion. They created their own opinion that when Eve disobeyed God that death just somehow happened.
OK, WITH RELIGION, THERE IS A REASON FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS, NOT JUST SOME THINGS! THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF A RELIGION! GOSH, BIBLICAL RELIGIONS ARE SO CONTROVERSIAL SOMETIMES, IN MY OPINON, AT LEAST. I HAVE YET TO FIND SUCH CONTROVERSEY IN PAGANISM.
St. Paul only blamed Eve for the incident claiming “Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in transgression” and in 418 A. D. it became heresy to say death was a natural necessity and not the result of Eves disobedience.
OMFG! WHAT ASS HOLES! LIKE ADAM COULDN'T MAKE HIS OWN DECISION AND THINK FOR HIMSELF??? SO BLAME -HIM- EATING THE APPLE ON -HER-??? OK, SO IF EVE COULD HAVE HER OWN MIND, ADAM COULDN'T? YEAH THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE! WHAT FUCKING STUPID ASS HOLES MADE THAT CROCK OF SHIT UP? WEREN'T MEN SUPPOSED TO BE THE LEADERS ANYWAY? HA! OK HERE WE GO!
This is a quote from Barbara G. Walker's book The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets about that issue: “This was the real origin of the church father's fear and hatred of women, which expanded into a sexist attitude that permeated all of western society: Woman was identified with Death. Her countervailing responsibility for birth was taken away, and the creation of life was laid to credit of the Father-god, whose priests claimed he could remove the curse of death.”
OKAY, SO THE ALL MIGHTY, POWERFUL, LOVING GOD COULD REMOVE THE “CURSE” OF DEATH FROM HUMANS, BUT DIDN'T? THAT MAKES SENSE... HONESTLY, HE SEEMS LIKE A DICK-HEAD! A TOTAL DOUCHE BAG! AND SINCE WHEN DO MEN GIVE BIRTH? HMM, LET'S LOOK BACK IN HISTORY... OH YEAH! NNNEEEVVVEEERRR!!! OH, and honestly, I'd rather die than be kept in this body. My body is a cage that only holds me back! It's not my ticket to freedom!
Apparently, God forgave Adam, but never forgave Eve. So, Eve is never forgiven for making the EXACT same mistake that Adam made!?! YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE! Christian theologians believed the same idea as Persian patriarchs, that heaven was closed off to all women except those who were entirely submissive and worshiped their husbands like gods. LOOK! MORE SEXISM! MORE REASONS TO HATE WOMEN AND MAKE US FAR FROM WORSHIPPED OR EVEN SEEN AS EQUALS. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHY SO MANY WOMEN WANT THIS BULLSHIT AND PUT THEMSELVES THROUGH IT!?!

Without the sins of Eve to back up their theology, churches would cease to exist. As Barbara G. Walker quotes, “Take the snake, the fruit-tree, and the woman from the tableau, ans we have no fall, no frowning Judge, no Inferno, no everlasting punishment-hence no need of a Savior. Thus the bottom falls out of the whole Christian theology.” Barbara also mentions that the restoration of books excluded from the canon would be equally as destructive. One such book is The Apocalypse of Adam. In that book, Adam stated that he and Eve were created together, but that Eve was his superior. Some texts even make Eve out to be superior to, not only Adam, but the creator as well. They said that it was she who cast down evil deities from heaven and made them demons, not God, and that she would eventually judge the God she created, as she is the eternal female Power in these texts, then find him guilty of injustice and destroy him.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. IF THE GOD SPOKEN OF IS THE SAME GOD SPOKEN OF IN THE BIBLE, THEN I BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE JUDGED BY ANOTHER POWER AND, IF JUDGED TO BE UNJUST, PUNISHED (OR DESTROYED WORKS TOO LOL, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF HE WAS PUNISHING HUMAN KIND FOR SIMPLY BEING WHAT WE ARE, THEN HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED AS WELL). I DISAGREE WITH THE WAY HE DOES THINGS AND BASICALLY TREATES HUMANS LIKE AN ANIMAL THAT HE HAS STARVED, THEN SHOWS FOOD, BUT PUNISHES IT WHEN IT EATS THE FOOD!!!

It seems all I have heard of Christianity and Catholicism is that they took old myths and changed and twisted them to fit their own needs, making the old myths seem bad and evil and making their own out to be the one, only right way to live if you want to have a pleasant experience after death.

According to some, even God has a creator, or, in this case, creatress that existed before all other living things. God forgot that she made him and gave him some of her power. Barbara quotes, “He was even ignorant of his own Mother... It was because he was foolish and ignorant of his Mother that he said, 'I am God; there is none beside me.'” Gnostic texts show the creator reprimanded and punished for arrogance (WHICH I WISH WOULD BE DONE TO PEOPLE SOMETIMES!!!) by a feminine power that is greater and older than himself.

It just seems to me, most people really don't care to learn about the history of their religion and it bothers me that they are so willing to blindly follow it, not even knowing that much about it and sounding very ignorant, and sometimes stupid, when they discuss and defend it (their preferred religion, whatever it may be). I don't know of any Pagans that don't know their own religious history, as well as the religious history of other religions. I find religious history to be very interesting, albeit frustrating as well. I just wish hardcore religious people found it as interesting as I do. I'm not even all that religious, per se, I am more spiritual.

All I want is to inform people about the background of Christianity and Catholicism. If, after they have the knowledge I have to share, they still choose to be Christian or Catholic, that is perfectly fine with me. All I want is to know that the knowledge is being passed around. I also feel like sharing my own point of view on these issues, as you have clearly seen! Please understand that this is my own personal reflection upon my soul. Call it Hell if you choose, all I know is, if you are disgusted in me for being the way I am, we will end up in very different places when our time comes. I still don't know why I am on this planet, yet. I have been returned, for some reason. Perhaps I am learning patience in this life, there's no way to tell. Perhaps I will know before I pass from this life, though.